A while back Eros Rex made a post challenging everyone to conquer the game at the lowest possible level (I think it's buried somewhere in the Vault of Folly). Well, I took that challenge and defeated the final boss at level 19. For the most part I took only those quests which were required but I did diverge by taking the Lukan the Witless and Lethe wyvern quests; I doubt that these two quests would have made a difference as I was very close to level 20 after defeating the final boss. I killed three things in the entire game: 2 dark champions guarding the front door and the final boss. I doubt that any character build can get fewer kills throughout the game. The front door is inoperable unless you kill those two dark champions and the "pacifistic" ending requires that you kill three things to release Arronax from his shell. I was somewhat disappointed that I couldn't complete the game peacefully. Technically, my character didn't dish out a single strike throughout the game and yet my companions were forced to resort to violence. My party for most of the game consisted of Virgil, Dog, and myself, Martin Gilder (Dog was necessary for death-dealing purposes, Virgil was just along for the ride because I hadn't yet fully explored that branch of the storyline). Martin was a halfling nature mage whose main spells were unlocking cantrip, charm beast, entangle, and invisibility. He had acquired 3 ranks of persuasion upon entering the Void, that being his only skill besides the aforementioned spells. Martin had the most difficulty getting through the horde of undead beneath P. Schuyler and Sons and the BMC mines without becoming surrounded and dying. Oh, and resurrecting Virgil's ass without killing anybody required a LOT of quick-loading. A lot of times getting money without the attached experience was a difficulty until I was able to gamble with Killian Drake (examples include the Stillwater giant pelt and library membership). All in all, I think level 19 is the absolute minimum for defeating this game; I'd like to hear from anyone else that has done better or perhaps has a theory as to how to further minimize experience gain. I'd also like to know why Eros Rex was banned; I've skimmed through the old posts and I couldn't find any good reason for it except for his dislike of the Vault (if you call that a good reason). Please don't waste post space by welcoming me to the forum; I'll feel welcome enough when you acknowledge my existence with a reply to the above queries. I've spent quite a bit of time at this forum during the last week or so and am somewhat familiar with the regular characters that frequent this place -- this is actually the first forum I've joined although I have perused others. That being said, I await your acknowledgement of my existence (and it would be just like you to leave this post sitting here for a week or two before replying. . . just kidding).