Hopechange wins Nobel Peace Prize.

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  1. Archmage Orintil

    Archmage Orintil New Member

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    It's likely that I'm simply blind, but I can't think of anyone that fits that description, let alone enough people to justify stereotyping the entire forum and the members.
     
  2. DarkFool

    DarkFool Nemesis of the Ancients

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    I think that Al Gore's winning one for Alerting the world to the menace that is Global Warming was even more idiotic. It was at that point in time, that I quit paying attention the Nobel Peace Prizes. Why? Because they gave one to Al Gore for spewing half-truths and utter bullshit. I think Obama is better than Bush. I am unhappy with the fact that we're still in the Middle East. We don't really have any business being there anymore. It's been 8 fucking years, and nobody has accomplished anything. Give up, nuke Mecca, and leave.* Hell, Osama Bin Laden will most likely die in his sleep of old age before we locate him. Let's just give up. That's my biggest gripe with him. That, and the terrible idea that is Socialized Health care. Great idea, wrong country.




    *waits for Charles to appear.
     
  3. Archmage Orintil

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    Throw in Rome and Jerusalem and whatever other holy city that comes to mind and I'm hip.
     
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  5. Archmage Orintil

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    Well, it would be a step to eradicating the number one cause of human suffering and intolerance. The first step would be to get rid of the practice of exempting religious institutions from taxation and getting government money. The second step would be a seizure of all religious property and funds. The third would entail illegalizing public displays of faith. The fourth would be the application of capital punishment without trial for those breaking said laws.
    If that's not worth recieving the Nobel Peace Prize, then I'd have to say the entire thing is a sham.
     
  6. Dark Elf

    Dark Elf Administrator Staff Member

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    The Soviet Union was wonderful, wasn't it?
     
  7. Archmage Orintil

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    They simply did it with too many things.
     
  8. Xz

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    How the hell would you then be sure/prove that said person broke that law?
     
  9. Archmage Orintil

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    You really don't need a trial if thousands of people are witness to you standing in the middle of the street preaching.
     
  10. Xz

    Xz Monkey Admin Staff Member

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    Of course you do, or should people be punished even if they were forced to do it?
     
  11. Archmage Orintil

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    And how would one be forced to stand raving in the street? Even if someone is holding leverage over you in order to get you to cooperate in breaking the law, you still willingly break the law. Keep in mind, I said public displays. I didn't mention anything about preaching in your own home or anything of that nature. Neither did I say anything about outlawing religion, only the public displaying of it.
     
  12. Dark Elf

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  13. Post-Internet Syndrome

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    Right, how does one force people to do things against their will? I can't come up with one single thing. I don't think people have ever been forced to do things they don't want to do.
     
  14. Xz

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    You're right, but you can alter the possibilities in such a way that any action other than the 'forced' one would be moronic.
     
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    Torture works pretty well. Brain washing is also a valid option. Actually, most things involving violence works most of the time.
     
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    They fared quite well against an U.S., sitting with a homeland untouched by any war and the best new world position available. Not to mention U.S. was able to expand corporations into the third world to suck their wealth, while the doctrine of the USSR specifically went against the notion. Finally, the U.S. had the support of all the colonial European nations.

    Also the whole police state thing also went on in the U.S. Search a bit on how Henry Kissinger and Senator McCarthy fared. Also check up on something called "counterguerilla" and "gladio". It's something that the Cold War brought about. Bloody mess.

    I can't be that positive about China though. That thing has to be stopped. Soviets didn't genocide their way through conquered lands and advocate settlement programs. The Chinese are just expanding their homeland under Communist disguise.
     
  17. Anonymous

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    Actually, unlike the Soviets, the Chinese are pretty reasonable in their policies. The thing is, the country is so heavily populated, it can't really be controlled without some instances of an iron fist.

    Also, I have a huge respect for them for not sucking anyone's cock. The Soviet Union has fallen, and now Russia is but a parody of its former self, with unimaginable levels of corruption and high crime and poverty rates. But China is still going strong and they fear none. Unlike what the Western propaganda may tell you, the Chinese people aren't brain-washed by the CPC, they are genuine patriots of their great country.
     
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    I don't doubt their power. It's just that I'm a Uighur and my family, kinda, fled the place, y'know. For good reasons too.

    And I don't care for cultural imperialism, as sooner or later, the world will come under one culture. I don't care that they don't care about religion either. Moving in settlers, "sterilizing" Uighurs in police centers and turning a blind eye to jobs saying "Uighurs need not apply" while saying "Uighurs are just lazy" might be the things that affect my viewpoint. They aren't just going for the culture like the U.S., nor are they just going for domination through military alliance (Warsaw Pact, Iron Curtain etc.) and doctrination like the Soviets. They're going to eliminate races other than Chinese, and that's why I'm straight pissed. They can't be allowed to expand even more.
     
  19. Archmage Orintil

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    Yes, I know my blue poo is worthy of worship, but I must be equally strict, yet fair, against all religions. If you wish to worship the blue poo, do so in your own home, not in the streets. Otherwise this might just be a suitably impressive death setence. Actually, I'd imagine if you worshipped poo and that happened to you, it might be taken as an act of god.
     
  20. Post-Internet Syndrome

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    I was actually being ironic. Of course you can force people to do things. It might not be simple or clear-cut, but quite possible.
     
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