Hopechange wins Nobel Peace Prize.

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  1. Dark Elf

    Dark Elf Administrator Staff Member

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    During his presidency, George W Bush was demonized almost beyond human comprehension. Every word spoken and gesture performed by the man quickly found their way into satiric caricatures, scalding blogs, seething newspaper editorials and in spoof videos uploaded on the then new Internet phenomenon we know as Youtube. The general purpose of this was to portray the former president as an ape, an imbecil, someone so unfit for office that those eligible for voting in the land of the free should feel ashamed for displaying such poor judgement, not only once but twice.

    Eight years of Bush bashing finally came to an end, however, and now we are being made sure that his successor has ushered the entire planet into a new age of unprecedented peace and prosperity. The tables have turned. Now, the words and gestures coming out from the Oval Office are not the subject of ridicule, but the sheer naked awe of a Messiah that has decided to come down from his throne on high and free us all from our plights.

    This is, at least, how I interpret the global madness and fascination with Obama that has led the five Norwegians who hold sway in such matters to award him the Nobel Peace Prize.

    In my misplaced sense of credulity, I had hitherto thought that the Nobel Peace Prize was awarded to people who had actually done something constructive towards world peace. They say that Obama has "promoted nuclear disarmament and supported international bodies". Granted, the incumbent president is a first class orator, but this is truly to ask oneself the question if rhetoric alone should award someone one of the most prestigious prizes in the world when no trace of anything tangible backing up the wordplay is to be found?
     
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    I just got out of bed and saw this in the news headlines. I think I threw up a little bit in my mouth.
     
  3. Post-Internet Syndrome

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    Vorak Administrator Staff Member

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    Where were you the day hope died?
     
  5. Archmage Orintil

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    Huh...that's just silly. I wonder what other awards will now be granted for intentions rather than results.
     
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    I really am quite ashamed now, you'd think winning this award would require some actual work, not saying "Yes, we can" over and over. Apparently, our former prime minister and his peace-prizeers would disagree.

    Now, dont get me wrong, I was all for Obama as president, and I still think he could do some good things over there, but awarding the peace prize to someone who's only real achievement to date is to be elected president of the U.S. 8 (!) months ago is just wrong.

    This leads me to believe that we're either:

    (1) Out of people who actually care about peace (which I guess also means an immediate end to naïvety?).

    (2) In dire need of another American president or vice president award winner, as we've only had two since 2002.

    (3) Going to have to hit the entire Nobelcommittee over the head repeatedly, preferrably with somthing made out of cast iron.

    Personally, I'm leaning towards option three here.


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  7. Xiao_Caity

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    What's that noise? Oh, it's just the last of my hope for humanity going up in a puff of cynicism-coloured smoke.
     
  8. Jungle Japes

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    Hell yeah! That nigguh EARNED it! Respect.

    EDIT: Awww, fuck it. I really need a new avatar.

    SUPEREDIT: Crap. Still disabled.
     
  11. Dark Elf

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    It's not disabled. It's transparent.
     
  12. Xz

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    Actually he got it for the UN resolution about nuclear disarmament. Though I would've wished they'd wait to see if that'll have any effects first.
     
  13. Gjerdev Ankarus

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    Wow.

    I'm not going to even make the effort of describing what the implications of this are and their reflections on the base ignorance of human society.

    Just goddamn wow.

    Aside from everything about this that's just too painful to speak of, and I'm dead fucking serious when I say that, we also now get to listen to idiots on the left rant about how much he deserves it and it's about time he got recognition for all the "change" he's implemented, and idiots on the right rant about how black nazi satan is going to destroy earth with a death ray. I don't doubt that there'll be bipartisan uproar over this, but stupid people tend to obey their archetypes.

    I'm going to hope in vain that Obama rejects the award, realizes what an idiotic waste of time this all was, and joins me in murdering the nobel prize nomination committee with dual-wielded flintlocks. After that we all fly off to space to play Fallout 4: The Return of Immersive and Enjoyable Video Games for all eternity as earth's problems evaporate.

    As every bit of this is absolute contrived fantasy, I guess all I can hope to do is to pretend I didn't hear this and not access the internet, watch any news programs, or read any papers for a couple of months.
     
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    Yeah, the real problem is that wackos on both sides will just get cannon fodder from this.
     
  15. Xz

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    That doesn't bother me in the least. If I don't want to hear them I can just not listen. Seriously, if people are talking bullshit on TV, (not that people are talking anything else on TV), turn that shit off.
     
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    Did anybody research this before they rambled on about how Obama only got a Nobel Prize because he was black and a good orator? He deserved a Nobel Prize for a few reasons, actually:

    1) He lifted the Stem Cell research ban. But saving lives by fixing the mistake your predecessor made doesn't count right? Okay, that's fine, but h

    2) Rather than let GM completely bully him, he made firing the CEO a requirement for the stimulous package. One of those things people forget when they complain that his government is just sucking up to corporations again.

    3) Obama was one of many who said "Why did we go to Iraq?", and this didn't change when he was elected. He's taking troops out of Iraq and putting them back in Afghanistan where the actual enemies are. This is similar to number 1, though, in that he's just cleaning up after his warmongering predecessor.

    4)Speaking of Bush, he certainly had to work hard to reverse a lot of Bush's last minute changes. Such as trying to take wolves off the endangered species list. Wtf is that?

    5) He also put more restrictions on the severity of the torture of prisoners. That must count for something, right? Granted, most of the people on the forum seem to be under the impression that all Arabic people are Muslims, and all Muslims are evil (and that Moderate Muslims don't exist), so I guess it makes him bad in TA's eyes. Despite this being enough to warrant a Nobel Prize. But whatever.

    If several delegates of the League of Nations, the guy who created a failed plan to force Germany to continue paying reparations after they defaulted on their debts (the most peaceful thing I've ever heard of!), Linus Pauling (who tried, but did not succeed, in stopping nuclear weapons testing), two East Timorians (given their Nobel Peace Prizes 3 years before the war there ended), the International Campaign to Ban Landmines (which countries who actively participate in wars refuse to sign), and Al Gore (who has not yet solved climate change) deserve Nobel Prizes, Barack Obama certainly does for attempting to strengthen diplomatic ties between other nations and proposing nuclear disarmament as a President of the United States (something not heard of previously).

    You don't need to have actually succeeded in your goal to get a Nobel Peace Prize, as long as you actively work towards a just cause.

    EDIT: In case it makes anybody feel better (especially you, Ankarus):

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/10/world ... ml?_r=1&hp

    Granted, he's still not going to turn it down. Would you? If you answered yes, you've just made a statement disagreeing with an organization world-renowned for promoting human intellectualism, and caused a media shitstorm.
     
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    What the hell does that have to do with peace? Sure, it's good for science and research into genetics, I don't see it really contributing much to peace... In fact, though terrorists need little incentive to hate America, this could actually escalate violent attacks.


    Eh? Giving failed companies money (but with a Condition!) = world peace how?

    He's contributing to peace because he's pulling troops out of Iraq and sending them off to fight another war? What? I believe Iraq needs an American presence because we've completely destabilized the region. I don't think we should have ever gone, but now we're leaving a country to probably civil war AND we don't get the oil we were actually after. We win: WORLD PEACE!

    Yes. With wolves still on the endangered species list, peace reigns supreme....

    Yay! He did something! Or, not really. His policy has sort of changed on torture and now all the dirty things we do in the name of "Freedom" and "Democracy" have gone back into the closet.

    Yes. Because you think there were several poor choices in the past, a guy who was President for 2 weeks should TOTALLY be chosen as the diplomat of peace.

    I will say that Obama has been extremely busy and some things he's done are okay. He should have been vetted a bit before being given this award.
     
  18. Xiao_Caity

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    Yeah, allow me to be either the first or the most irate to tell you to go fuck yourself for this comment.
     
  19. Charonte

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    Question: Who should have won the Nobel peace prize?
     
  20. Anonymous

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    Obama's war: Deploying 17,000 raises stakes in Afghanistan

    Obama sure deserved the prize!

    Seconding this. We ain't no rednecks here. The assumption that most people here are ignorant and uneducated is insulting.
     
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