Hey Look! We reached a new low, America!

You got a new convert.

 

Go with something that hasn't been successful half a dozen (or more) times... like invading Russia in winter.

 

Don't forget that the Varangian Guard failed badly against the Ottomans, from Manzikert to the Conquest of Constantinople.

 

Did I ever mention you that the EU/US backed government here is trying to destroy Kemalism? You'll face a weird (freakish) angry Turco-Islamic hybrid nation due to incompetence or evilness on the West's part.

A Jihad-happy one, I might add. No way you can hold Constantinople/Istanbul. I'd say you should go raid Normandy, and then move to England.

 

What I don't understand is their support from the EU/US. I thought they were on a War on Terror. :/

Well, our only hope is the army (or a political movement with common sense and appeal to the common - which I don't believe will appear in "any" country) right now.

 

Mostly because the EU/US are back to playing the "support democracy" card.

Nowadays, the Powers That Be would rather have elected Islamists than unelected military dictators. (In Turkey, anyway. America seems to have decided not to recognize the elected government of Palestine.)

 

Fuck that shit. Democracy just means 51% of the population can void the rights of the other 49%. I support pure laissez-faire capitalism.... to bad we never have and never will have such a system. So until then, federalist republic please.

 

Agreed on the thing on Wild Capitalism. The best solution is to ensure access to basic needs for everyone and limiting corporations from interfering with the government (another step that's as important as the seperation of religion and the state for me) while retaining a competitive market.

 

America's definition of "democracy" has always been "constitutional capitalist Western-values republicanism that's open to doing business with American companies." Direct democracy would be entirely too independent for the tastes of the "democracy"-spreaders.

And laissez-faire libertarianism could theoretically work if everyone played by its rules. That's where it fails; companies can and will use illegal tactics and even main force to control their workforce, whatever the law says. (As DE so astutely noticed, it's rather similar to communism in its faults, namely that those with control of the resources are going to cheat to maintain that power.)

Interestingly, though, laissez-faire open markets are becoming more and more possible as society evolves, given current trends away from big corporate monoliths in Western countries.

 

One issue on that - How is having rules "laissez-faire" capitalism? Laissez-faire literally means "let them do (whatever they want)", as it's part of "laissez-faire, laissez-passer". Laissez-faire capitalism is the wildest form of capitalism available. Rockafeller anyone?

Having rules would not lead to a complete free market, it would lead to government moderation. Which capitalist countries do need by the way.

 

Laissez-faire capitalism, conventionally, does include rules against using violence or fraud. Otherwise, you're not "let be."

 

Yet "playing by the rules" usually include lobbying, paying fake people to do "legal protests", creating fake scientific reports etc. - all the things corporations use to gain/use political power.

It might depend on the definition of playing by the rules, however, if your system allows these, then it's bound to be corrupt. If it isn't, then corporations do not take part in the democratic progress (making it more democratic in my opinion), making government moderate the corporations' actions with law.

Laissez-faire allows these, if I'm not mistaken.

 

But without laws prohibiting other corporations to fuck up the environment, there would be no need for lobbying. Only with the government moderation (like taxes on carbon emissions, which aren't enough IMO) do the corporations feel the need to have to change the law.

The only time you won't have lobbying is when there are no laws the government enforces on things like waste control/carbon emission tax etc.