Fuck katanas.

Allow me to contradict you.

It is widely accepted as fact that the physical world, bound as it is by the laws of Nature, is in its entirety composed of physical information.

Therefore, it seems reasonable to me that you must allow for the possibility that information equals logic, inasmuch both are expressions of reality.

 

Threads can be split in order to create new threads out of them, grafting an existing thread onto another however is as far as I am aware unsupported by phpBB2, and you can be damn sure I can't be bothered modding it in.

Personally, I couldn't care less about thread derailment. When you have a chat with your buddies, are you violently compulsive about having the damn conversation stay on topic all night long, brutally murdering those who dare insulting you by changing the subject, or are your innate levels of anal retentiveness low enough for you to allow it to follow its natural course?

This is a forum devoted to a small, long defunct game developer which is only really big or even known in hardcore CRPG circles... and you call HHGTTG references geeky?

I want whatever you're smoking.

 

Since when was mathematics a part of the physical world? The entire thing is conceptual.

 

Mathematics is an expression of logic and by extension reality; whenever mathematicians discover a concept, you can be sure that the physicists will find a practical application for it.

Physics are, after all, applied mathematics. The lingua franca of science and all that.

Mathematics aside, if everything in the universe could be described as objects of physical information, and if everything in said universe is governed by the laws of Nature (and therefore logic), then logically information, at least if we're talking quantum, must be logical as well.

 

Logical is an adjective, logic is a noun.

Yes information may be logical. Though information is not logic.

Information may be illogical too. That doesn't make the information to be faulty logic. It's the logic conveyed by the information that is faulty.

Information != Logic
Logic != Information

Also I challenge you to touch logic. You can't because it's not a physical object. Neither is information for that matter. The medium which conveys the logic or information may however be a physical object.

 

Yes yes, bring on the semantics to confuse the subject. It all boils down to how you define information really. If information = that which describes the relationships and properties of distinct particles then information must by necessity adhere to logic. However, if information = the ramblings of the town drunk, then logic is not to be expected.

 

Adhering to and being are quite different.

 

Yes, but the difference is conceptual at best when describing how particles behave, as they have no choice but to function logically. In the event that they appear not to, don't blame the particle but your own misguided sense of logic.

 

It is indeed a conceptual difference, that's what we are talking about. Is the concept "logic" the same as the concept "information". And the answer is no.

 

This is exactly why I'll need you as my lawyer when I enter the world domination scene; you are meticulous with the fine print and the seemingly petty details.