Forcing the location of K'na Tha

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  1. Muro

    Muro Well-Known Member

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    In my current game, I have the ambition to travel everywhere it's possible and kill everything it's possible, and since I'm evil, a little metagaming isn't too much of a sin.

    I've already forced the locations od the Castle S'nel N'fa (unlimited teleport staff is just priceless) ans the Ruins of Szabo by going the the direct coordinates, taking a quick save and then going several or more screens in one direction from the point where my character appeared, quickloaded when no success, tried another direction and repeated that action until I found it. However, K'na Tha appeared to be a much bigger challenge. It is always easier to find a big castle in the midle of a plain grass terrain with a few thees per screen, but finding something I don't even know how it looks like in the middle of the glimmering forest... I wandered in 16 directions as good as I could from the appearing point, but found nothing.

    Did someone else tried to force this location? If so, about how many screen in which direction should I go from the appearing point?

    Or maybe the coordinates are wrong? AFAIK, they are [1435W, 616S].
     
  2. Vorak

    Vorak Administrator Staff Member

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    I've read posts from people claiming to have done it, but I've never found the door into K'na Tha. Leading me to believe that the entrance is triggered by the quest.
     
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    Or maybe it's like the Tulla trick? You know, go past the location and then push the "cancel" button, or whatever it is. COULD work.
     
  4. Oracle

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  5. Muro

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    I personally didn't believe that it is possible, I thought that it would be like in Fallout 2, when some locations sre possible to go to only when somebody marked them n your map/mentioned them. But when searching over the forum over information about forcing locations, I earlier found the very same topic which Oracle gives in a link above, tried and found S'nel N'fa. After that I managed to try it myself and find Szabo, and found it.
    Although K'na Tha seems to be much harder and yet I didn't succeed and unless somebody will have any tips in the direction one should go from appearing in the coordinates, I think I'm going to surrender.
    I'm sure it is there though, because if S'nel N'fa and Szabo are programmed to be there even when you dosn't know about it and it is possible to get there. I believe, that someone familiar with the WorldEd could say the same.
     
  6. Vorak

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    The hardest one for me to force was Vollinger's Meeting Place but after a long search I found it.

    It probably is there, but I couldn't be bothered looking for it.
     
  7. rroyo

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  8. Oracle

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    to quote Zebulin:
    And it helped me find the castle. Its right in that topic. Its doable trust me I was about to give up ultill that topic helped me.

    Good luck!
     
  9. Muro

    Muro Well-Known Member

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    By quoting Zebulin you are talking about findind the castle S'nel Nfa, location the K'an Tau Staff (spot traps mastery quest), while I have already done that, and the thing I'm searcing for is a way to force Kna Tha, location of the Azram Star (throwing mastery quest).
     
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    Good luck.

    {58}{91902, 39305, 0, 0/K'na Tha/A place of ancient magick rumored to contain Azrams Star./Radius:-1}

    The radius of -1 means you could pass right over top of the spot and not trigger it to show.
     
  11. Xz

    Xz Monkey Admin Staff Member

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    Judging by the numbers posted by rroyo it should be a some screens east of 1436 West and a few more screens south of 567 South.
     
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    Ahh sorry about that...

    Yea that location was hard to force. But its possible. I believe when using the cordinates w1435 s616 I should be like 1 or 2 screens away but I do not know which way. (numbers taken from the locationbank)
     
  14. jfkoski

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    The page I downloaded on locations was very sloppy in its coordinates. This is not a problem if it's a location that pops up on your map when you walk near, like the Ancient Maze, but for some sites you have to get it right on the money.

    What I do is go back to a saved game where I found that location and check the coordinates by trying to go there. If the "bubble" doesn't move when you release the mouse then those are the exact coordinates: write them down! Then in your current game when you go to those coordinates, you're right where you should be and don't have to scurry around.

    Note: some locations still won't appear on my map after visiting them! In that case I plan to cheat by creating a dialog file for someone who'd then mark my map "mm##." Only then will I be able to teleport to them.
     
  15. Muro

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    Hm. I suppose I am allowed to gravedig this thread, since I'm the one who started it and I still haven't found the answers I seek. If I'm mistaken, sorry for this and I'll start a new one.

    I'm still trying to force the location of K'na Tha. It's the very last location which is left, I've forced all of the remaining ones already.
    To summorise the tips given from rroyo and Xz so far:
    However according to the Alphabetical List of Locations in Arcanum (and a pic of the map where K'na Tha is marked), it seems that it's 1435W 616S, not 1435 567S.
    I appreciate the exact coordinates given by rroyo, but don't know how to translate the coordinates in WorldEd language to how many screens in which direction from the arrival place (when the location isn't spotted) should I go to find it. Without this data I have serious problem finding it. :/
     
  16. rroyo

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    {58}{91902, 39305, 0, 0/K'na Tha/A place of ancient magick rumored to contain Azrams Star./Radius:-1}


    Dividing coordinates by 64 "should" drop you right there.

    91902/64= 1435
    39305/64= 614.14

    Familiarize yourself with the two pictures I posted a few threads up and search north just a bit.
     
  17. Muro

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    Going to your coordinates from the last post (1435W 614S, 2 points north from the official location) I landed at the circle of dirt around the tree from your first screenshot. K'na Tha is just next to that. Great thanks rroyo! :)
     
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    :-o ....Holy shit.... It worked!


    :lol:
     
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