Could humans live longer?

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  1. xento

    xento New Member

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    What is that difference?

    Everyone has sinned, now do you consider that wrong or evil?

    Every sin is just as bad as the other. If you lie to someone, it is in the ten commandments just as much as killing, so they are just as bad, but you may get punished more for one then the other. Wrong is probably sinning now and then, but being forgiven for it, while evil may be sinning very often and never asking Jesus for forgiveness.
     
  2. Luchaire

    Luchaire New Member

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    So I can go out and commit mass murder, just so long as I make sure to ask Jesus for forgiveness - that makes it all okay? But, if I tell a lie and forget about it, I'm damned?

    Seems like a pretty fucked up way to run the universe. I think God needs to work on his management skills. Perhaps he could take a course at his local community college. I'm sure that with all the money the televangelists get for him, he can afford the tuition.


    I think the definition of evil needs a little clarification. Being/doing "wrong" should not equate with "evil."
     
  3. xento

    xento New Member

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    Well, you can test it from any angle, and I'm not quite sure how that works, but I do know that, yes, some things are more serious then others. Now, if you would kill someone, say sorry, you would probably be forgiven, but if you kept it up, nonstop, you probably wouldn't really want to be forgiven in your heart and, therefore, wouldn't be forgiven. Telling a lie may seem minor, but it is serious as well.
     
  4. Gwindor

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    Well, as long as the actual apology IS true, you are forgiven... But then you shouldn't go and kill more people... And of course I forget some of my sins, but I also pray for forgiveness for the sins I can't remember...
     
  5. Qilikatal

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    Ohh what lies? There is many lies going around. If you had a sister that you knew had a problem with her weight and say she was a little fat what would you answer to a question like: "do you think i'm fat?"? Would you lie and say "no you look all right" or would you say "yup, you look like miss piggy." No you would pick the first alternative and i do not think you would think oh no i have lied now i em doomed. What about white lies?

    Still i have not heard a definition of evil.
     
  6. xento

    xento New Member

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    Well, that is different. If you lie to hurt someone or save yourself, it is bad, but if it is for someone else, it isn't.

    Evil, as I see it, is, as I mentioned ealier, doing bad things over and over and not even caring that you are doing them. Like you would call a cerial killer "evil" because he wants to kill and doesn't want to stop, and isn't sorry for it, while if someone fought and accidently killed someone, or accidently hit someone with a car or shot them, etc, it would be and accident, and therefore would not be "evil" but it would still be a sin...
     
  7. Jarinor

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    So what, an altruistic lie is okay, but lying to save yourself - when a third party isn't affected by your lie - is not okay? That's a fucked up rule, and you know it. Obviously lying to save yourself, but causing harm to another person because of your lie isn't okay, but what's wrong with saving yourself? Self-preservation is one of the most basic instincts, if not THE most basic.
     
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    You are never going to get than excate meaning for GOOD or EVIL as they they astate principtaling which cannot never be tire down. In the past there where no need for the RIGHT TO DIE laws in many America states as there was no medicate machinary to keep than brain dead person body going. So when you where very old or ill you die natural. When my mother was in the rehabital center run by than hostipal under Texas Right to Die Law she didnot
    want the hopital to bring her back to life when her heart stop beating as she have heart touble. There some doctor and religious people who donot like these laws as they consider allowing people to die natural as than evil.
     
  9. Gwindor

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    Uh, nbrosz I didn't know about that rule in the bible :roll:

    I'd rather say... "You REEEALLY wanna hear my opinion? Well, you're not the thinnest..." I try never to actually lie, except when joking with people, but I don't lie to make people feel better, I just don't tell them what I thinkof them if it isn't good nad they don't ask for it...

    Lies suck. Ass.
     
  10. Qilikatal

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    Aha What is a bad thing hm? And anyway the ten comandments say: among othe things you shall not lie and you shall not kill. Then killing by accident is against the bible, and the bible is the word of god. And lying to get away from trouble is also against the bible and then you are a sinner EVIL BOY.
     
  11. xento

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    I tried to say that earlier, but you wouldn't listen and said it was too harsh!

    Lying to save yourself isn't the right thing to do, Jar. If someone asked you "Jar, do you believe in Jesus and trust him? If you do, we will kill you.", then what do you think the right thing to do would be? In the Bible, it says that you will be denied by God if you say you don't know him.
     
  12. Qilikatal

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    So how come god made us humans with a thing called survival instinct? A instinct that makes all people wishing to survive and to fight back against whatever attack us. The when we try to survive we are not allowed. Where is the justice in that?
     
  13. Gwindor

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    So what Qilikital? If one dies becuase of his beliefs, then he would be greatly rewarded... Death believing in God is not bad in anyway... (in my belief, don't think I'm forcing you to think so :-o )
     
  14. xento

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    The instinct to live is, yes, simply an instinct. If we didn't have it, we would jump in front of cars. It is what most people call Common Sence.

    Now, if you are a christian, you don't need it because you aren't afraid to die. Yes, you may be nervous, but that is natural. However, you could lie about your relationship with God/Jesus and loose your soul to Hell when you die, or you could die and go to Heaven for all of eternity. Wouldn't dying right there and having a perfect body in Heaven be better?
     
  15. Luchaire

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    *cough*bullshit*cough*
     
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    No! It's the truth!
    The aposles were killed one-by-one in very nasty ways, but they never denied Jesus for it.
     
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    You missed my point.

    I have known extremely few people who truly weren't afraid to die, christian or otherwise. I think many people who say "I'm not afraid of death" are full of shit. Being christian does not make one fearless about death - like any religion/belief system, it might make one calmer about it, but I don't believe it makes the average believer not scared. Your blanket statement is just out of synch with reality.
     
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    Or maybe you are confusing how much calm and not scared are alike and are being a little too specific. Of course that is what I meant, I just didn't find the correct word to express it.
     
  20. Gwindor

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    Now why would I be afraid of death anyway? The only thing I'm worrying about is how much pain there will be the seconds before... After that I know everything will be alright :)
     
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