Bloody Ice

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  1. rosenshyne

    rosenshyne New Member

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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3569475.stm


    Artist sprays iceberg blood red

    A controversial Danish artist has sprayed an iceberg off the coast of western Greenland in blood red.

    "We all have a need to decorate Mother Nature because it belongs to us," Chilean-born Marco Evaristti told the Associated Press news agency.

    "This is my iceberg; it belongs to me," Mr Evaristti added.

    He used 3,000 litres of paint diluted with sea water, three fire hoses, two icebreakers and a 20-man crew to complete the task in about two hours.

    The crew was working on Wednesday in temperatures as cold as -23C, to spray the tip of the iceberg, which was about 900 square metres (1,080 square yards) in size.

    The sea water was coloured with the same dye used to highlight meat, the artist said.

    Mr Evaristti said he and his crew sailed from the small town of Illullissat and only managed to find the perfect iceberg after zigzagging among slow-moving ice floes for about 30 minutes.

    There was no immediate reaction from the local Greenland authorities.

    Blending goldfish

    Mr Evaristti is well-known for his controversial art shows.

    In 2000, his art display in a Danish gallery invited the public to put live goldfish through food blenders.

    Visitors were told they could press the "on" button if they wanted. At least one visitor did, killing two goldfish.
     
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    i wonder what would have happened if all of them pressed the button and they ran out of goldfish? thrown this psycho in there to let them press the on button for?
     
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    Are these people for real?
     
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    I think thats pretty awesome. For their next trick they should get a giant chain saw and make a huge ice sculpture of something.
     
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    This is interesting, very interesting.

    Course, doesn't bother me, I wasn't part of the crew :p
     
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    Jarinor New Member

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    Personally, I prefer the guy who covers landmarks in paper, but whatever. Art is for the pseudo-intellectuals who think they can see and/or understand something no one else can unless they make an obscure (and possibly ironic) and highly public statement about it.
     
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    Those are just the bad ones. Like the guy who ade paintings by throwing buckets of paint through jet engines onto uge canvases. That was just stupid. Its like its not a matter of art, its a matter of "HEY LOOK WHAT I CAN DO!!!"

    There is good art, and there are worthwhile artistic statements to be made, just not ones that involve jet engines.
     
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    not being able to draw anything but stick figures myself, i hate most art. paintings that actually look like something are okay, but modern art just pisses me off... i prefer sculpture. not that ghetto-ass government building kind of sculpture, but good, form-of-something-interesting sculpture...
     
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    Meh, I can draw pretty well, but drawing picture perfect stuff is pretty pointless and boring, pictures are picture perfect. I draw mostly sci-fi type shit, and weird abstract pictures of homeless people, and bird men. DOn't you like Picasso? I think some modern architecture is cool. As for the whole "look at this red dot, can't you feel the pain" thing, thats pretty lame. I recently read about this one guy that takes random macho guy stuff and presents it as art. His first show that made him famous was a bunch of Biker Magazine covers that he hung up on the walls and sold as art. His new show is fiber glass racing hoods from junk yards. Its total shit, its just rusty off color car hoods. Thats crappy art.
     
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    i don't mean that art has to be a perfect picture of something real. i just mean it can't be a paint splatter. that's gay. art can be a shadow, or an image, or anything from your imagination... but it should take some effort. and sometimes pictures of real things aren't art either. just cuz you can trace a picture doesn't mean it's art. and maybe i was too broad with the "i hate modern art" thing. picasso's okay, i don't really like it, but at least he had an idea, and he worked to bring the idea to life on canvas. he didn't hit watermelon's with a hammer... which is funny to watch, by the way, but it's not art.
     
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    Personally, I'm a troglodyte when it comes to art. I think most modern art is (insert nationality name for poo). I only like and tolerate perceptions of reality paintings (landscapes, people, etc). I hate when someone presents something that looks like he covered his ass in water colors and smudged it against some canvas. "Oh look at my incredible intellect (the ass represents pain and sodomy (which the artist probably craves) and capitalistic pig oppression (sp?))" You can't understand it? Too bad. <--- Modern art at its best.
     
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    Personaly, I've alway's viewed art as something that was personally subjective to interpretation. Take the Mona Lisa, classic piece showcasing form and texture of the human body.... or some chick with a wierd ass smirk; Another example... David, classic piece showcasing blah, blah, blah... or a guy with no pant's on. Now just because you or I cannot grasp the meaning and/or significance of the "artwork" as such, does that make it any less "art"?.
     
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    Yeah, but the sculpture of David was an amazing piece of workmanship. The detail is fantastic, especially given the period it was carved in.

    Some art I like, but I've never found any of it deep and meaningful. If it's nice to look at, and the effort and skill it took can be easily appreciated, I'm all for it. Obscure efforts that make some witty comment on modern life are not art. My brother told me when he went to an art museum in London, some guy had been paid 14000 pounds for stacking no more than a dozen bricks together. I can't remember what it was supposed to symbolise, but what a load of crap. He could have got those bricks from any building site.
     
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    Oh, but that is art. The art of deceiving. That guy's one hell of a con artist if you ask me.

    Anyway, art is art in the eye of the beholder if it's up to me, but seriously, £ 14,000 for a pile of rubble... what a terrible waste of money.
     
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    Only the artist can truly understand the emotions behind a piece, just like only a poet can understand the emotions behind his or her work. There could be that pain of sodomy thing going on.

    But at the same time, I don't fucking care if the artist I'm looking at was upset about the horrors Brazilian tree frogs are forced to endure, I'm buying his work not his process. If I like the piece, I like it, I don't care what the motivating emotions behind it were,

    I once paid 25 bucks for a rusty wheelbarrow. Then I cleaned it up and made it into a recliner. :p
     
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    i hate all poetry but mine, and i don't show mine to anybody. because they'd probably hate it. i'm nice that way...
     
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    Put me down for the I Hate Poetry camp. I regard students of it with the same level of contempt I regard modern artists, communists, bleeding hearts, refugee advocates and religious zealots - I hate their fucking guts and wish they would all die.
     
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    You're ust full of pent up sexual tension. May be you should get fucked?
     
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