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  1. Riciky

    Riciky New Member

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    Thanks ricky...

    Is there an article that goes with that, or did you just want to freek me out? I mean, I'm kind of interested now, and I'd demand an explanation if you were close enough for me to kick your ass.
     
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    she's a rare form of parasitic twin, only the eighth documented case, and the other seven were all born dead. the second head is actually a partially formed brain, lips, eyes, and ears. when she nurses, the other mouth moves, and there is some brain activity. they're going into surgery today to try and remove the second head, but there's a large risk as she's only 7 weeks old, this is the first surgery of it's kind ever done, and the heads share arteries.

    newspapers are fun!!!
     
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    wow, ya, rose is right :) .thanks, i was feeling too lazy to find the whole article again. but ya, ill be sure to keep everyone posted on the disgusting happenings of the world.
     
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    So that's like, what, Conjoined Twin Myslexia?

    Yes, all my scientific knowledge comes from South Park.
     
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    Is there any other place to garner knowledge?

    I mean, how else was I supposed to learn that Pink Eye causes you to turn into a Zombie?
     
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    I wonder how that felt on the way out, couldn't have been pleasent.
     
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    That would suck to have a child deformed like that... =/

    Even if the child has surgury done to her, I'm sure she'd still have some mental problems and such like that...this is a sad world....
     
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    Damn feeling human, It's how it happened. If only we weren't self aware we'd have no problems.
     
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    Hey, shit happens...and I can't believe an ultrasound wouldn't have turned this shit up.
     
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    *UPDATE*

    the surgery has been successfully completed, now the baby just has to recover. it took eleven hours and eighteen surgeons.

    also, on the ultrasound they couldn't tell that it was a second head, the doctor thought it was a tumor, so they already knew there was a need for some kind of medical attention... in addition, she was born by c-section...

    yeah, i need to get out more...
     
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    The baby died after the surgery, which may be for the best, since this baby would probably have had lots of problems. Thinking that a second head was a tumor? That's a big tumor.
     
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    cant say I feel bad that the baby died. it is not so much tragic as dumbfounding.........but I do feel for the parents. yes the child was only a few weeks old, the woman did carry the child for most of a year, and that is a devastating loss to just about any woman. even though the child was only alive a short period of time, parents love their children even b4 they are born. someone please back me up here......rosie? would you agree that losing a child after it birth (no matter how brief the child's life) is a real kick in the pants?? kinda rips your heart out. think of all the time and energy invested in that child, and then it dies.

    I do not care how morbid, cynical, F the world, matter of fact, realistic, faithful/less, or whatever you are. You have to be able to admit that it would hurt to suffer that same loss. Noone can honestly say that do not care one bit about that story; or say well it wasnt me, so why should I care. Have some friggin compassion man!!! If you can honestly, truly, all joking aside say that you could give a sh%& then I feel sorry for you-beacause you are not a human, but carbon based molecules stacked ontop of eachother to produce some semblance of the human form. you are not really alive-you simply exist!!!

    flame me if you will, but I could find some part of that story to reach every single one of you that thinks you could give a rats a**!! it aint gonna kill ya'll to show some human quality(s) now and then........must you always be cold, heartless, and unforgiving??

    just my thoughts...............
     
  14. Dark Elf

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    Even if she would had encountered problems later in life, who are we to judge what's better or not?

    She would had had a different life than most, certainly, but would it really had been so bad that she'd rather been dead? I doubt so.

    Every time a person dies it's a tragedy. When children are involved, it's even more so. Poor souls...
     
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    Man, RP. All that hatred directed to no one in particular.
     
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    See, now this is one of my major problems with 'society', I suppose you could say. Or rather, the general opinion that because humans are sentient, that our lives are somehow worth more than any other lifeform on the planet. Why do we deserve to live more than the ant you just unknowingly crushed beneath your heel?

    Sure, there's nothing wrong with looking out for you own kind, but holding the attitude that we're just so much fucking greater than everything else in existence gives me the shits. I now value all lifeforms on the same level, and seeing as I have no problem with crushing said ant, I believe I would have no problem with crushing a given human. Having not killed anyone yet, I can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure it would be the case.

    No, I can say I really don't care about the baby. I'm sure it's sad for all involved, but I didn't know it, I don't know the parents, and I had nothing at stake. Why should I grieve?

    That said, one of my sisters died a week after being born, so you can't say I know nothing of the situation.
     
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    I didn't say "Thank god that horrible baby died," I said that it may have been for the best. I do feel sympathy, not empathy, for the mother and father of the child, but I can't help feeling like they shouldn't grieve so much over a child that they barely knew and instead look over and care for their other children (they have two others).

    I don't agree with you when you say that it's a tragedy every time some one dies however. Take people like Stalin- was it a tragedy when he died? And sometimes it's just their time; for example, when people who are in their 80s and 90s just pass away. It's sad and it affects their children/relatives, but after living so long (etc) I wouldn't describe it as a serious tragedy.
     
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    yes, Jar, we know you're unbelievably cool and completely unaffected by such trivial things as human emotion. :roll:

    losing a baby is one of the worst things a person can endure. i've only had Amy for 3 and a half weeks, and if i lost her now, i think i might go temporarily insane. i had 9 months to think about her, dream about her, anticipate all the wonderful things she could grow to be, go on to do... i've heard her heartbeat, watched her smile, felt her kick, all before she was born. at first, yeah, she was just an idea, a possibility... but once we knew she was a girl, she had a name, a face... she was real, and we loved her.

    and what about people who miscarry? they never actually meet their baby... but they love that unknown child with all their heart. true, not all deaths are tragedies. but the death of a child is.
     
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    I can't help it if I'm cool under pressure and don't let emotion rule me :D. But seriously, I can't understand how people can be so overrun by emotion that it clouds all other reasoning and judgement.

    One of my aunts had a miscarriage or two. She seems to have gotten over it pretty well...but then she had 2 more kids later, and it would have been 15 or 16 years ago now.

    Now that's a practical attitude I can appreciate.
     
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    I'm not sure if anyone cares, but I thought I'd give you a little info. Miscarriages occur all the time. There are plenty of times when an embryo is created and just dies. This occurs about a day after intercourse, though, and no one notices.

    They do this because as parents, their instincts tell them that their child is to be protected, and that's why they love them. That's why I think that type of love is hollow. But none of you want to hear about my semi-depressed atheist notions.

    I'm not going to say anything about this. I'm sure if I did, you'd be pissed off, and I'd be flamed to hell. By many a HoLer.
     
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