An interesting set of circumstantial facts...

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  1. Grossenschwamm

    Grossenschwamm Well-Known Member

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    And obvious assertions.
    As you may or may not know, I kinda smoke pot...~and am pretty great at it. I'm pretty blazed right now. That, in combination with my 'interesting' psyche, leads to strange bouts of creativity, wisdom, and very often, masterful views of the obvious.
    I was sitting outside with my pipe, and had my dog out with me. This is the first time I have ever smoked with my dog (I didn't blow smoke in his face, this is simply the first time he was able to see me do it), and I didn't intend to learn any of this beforehand.
    I smoked half a bowl with my dog present, outside, in a fenced yard about the size of a squash court.
    He roamed about the yard, I enjoyed my herb, and as I was taking my last few hits, I was noticing my dog glance at me for about 5 seconds in jumps of 3 to 4 seconds, while seriously sniffing the air.
    The smoke just cleared and I was certain that, at the distance we were (maybe six feet away) he could smell the heated char and resin still in the pipe as I was smoking.
    I know he didn't get high. He was studying me, and seemed intent on the smell. He reacted to it like he had smelled it before, but he almost acted like he wasn't supposed to know what I was doing...
    -My mom smokes too, in front of the dog. I don't smoke with her, she always has the fuzzy guy with her when she goes to smoke with her friends (who have dogs too) or at home
    ...or was simultaneously aware of the scent while looking up at me no less than 14 times while I was looking.
    I save what's left in the bowl and go inside, while wondering if I should have stayed out there and gotten my dog high. I take off my coat, hang it up, and sit a very relieved sit in my chair (I enjoy such things very much while I toke). My dog looks at me - my pipe is in my hand, at nose level. He walks up to me and starts sniffing at the pipewhile getting ready to lick and I gently pull back an inch or two, not wanting him to inadvertently nose all of the smokeables out of the bowl or to tongue my reefer. For some reason, he reacts by closing his mouth and gently closing in on the smell from the pipe, taking smaller whiffs as he studies the smell, and he looks up at me with the same look he gives me when he wants something admissable really badly.
    What I think happened is that my dog sees my mom smoke all the time, and he's even closer to her than he is to me - Bear in mind that, I used to have a REALLY fucking stupid neighbor that thought he, an untrained civilian, could somehow REHABILITATE a fucking 105 pound, unaltered male American Pit Bull Terrier that was rescued from the pits. This dog saw my mom walking our dog one day after it snapped the chain lock on its enclosure and attacked. He saw another male dog, sized him up and figured my mom would just watch, being a human. The thing tore into my Lab-Shepherd mix and thankfully hit low, in his chest muscles, and not the throat. My mom grabbed a log from the side of the road and hit as hard as she could, screaming at the top of her lungs. The pit bull started throwing my dog in the way of the hits, so my mom had to stop trying. Two guys from up the street had come running with a golf club and a soft ball bat and started whailing on the pit bull. He let my dog go and my dog ran home. I don't hold it against my dog that he lost a fight to another dog. My dog is a member of my family, and no member of my family should be exposed to the amount of violence and hate that went into raising that unfortunate pit bull. That life, I view, as forfeit. Every dog eventually loses in some way.
    Because my mom protected him during the most terrifying moment of his life, he possibly views her as the closest friend he's ever had. I'm a pretty close number two, but she's definitely number one.
    He sees that her mood changes, she becomes more happy and possibly a little more affectionate (extra head scratches).
    He watched a group of people, one of them his best friend, prepare something and inhale it. He watched each person act funny after having inhaled.
    Now after thinking of that, think how social dogs and wolves are? The more intelligent, the more social and co-operational the dog (yes, alphas are more aggressive, but all social structures formed have leaders that have a little more to say than the rest). Dogs and wolves are also some of the few animals observed having real fun.
    What I gather from all of this, is that he either got a contact high (animals don't take much, so it could be just from the vapors he inhaled during a few hours of being near the group) and likes how it feels, or he likes the smell, knows what it does, knows my mom won't let him get high directly, and is wondering if I'll let him join in, since I'm doing the same damn thing.
    Either way, I need to seriously reevaluate the intelligence of other living things. He made a choice that solves some of his doggie problems every once and a while.
     
  2. Dark Elf

    Dark Elf Administrator Staff Member

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    Just like people, dogs can surely become addicted to various substances. I know one German Shepherd who was crazy for coffee and would become hyperactive after getting her fix, so that your dog would seize the opportunity to take a few whiffs of your ganja doesn't actually surprise me that much.

    When you catch your dog reading Rolling Stone, you know what things are coming to.
     
  3. Grossenschwamm

    Grossenschwamm Well-Known Member

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    I'll keep this a secret from the cat, she's already got a couple ounces of something special.
    I was concerned that this post would go without a reply, due to its length and lack of lucidity.
    I got a big kick out of him sniffing the pipe. He had to know what was going on, because he just had that "everything's ok" look that dogs get when absolutely nothing could go wrong, and he let me scratch his head for 20 minutes.
    I really like the idea of getting my dog high, though.
     
  4. Dirtman

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    A stoned hedgehog that I once encountered was walking in circles for some half an hour or so. Just wanted to share that irrelevant piece of information. That hedgehog was really stupid.

    Try smoking next time in a small room with no windows, then write an essay about the dog's behavior. Damn, that was long, still can't believe I read it all.
     
  5. Jazintha Piper

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    My boyfriend's dog now equates the passenger side door of his work ute with me, and me with bones (I give her our leftover bones aobut 80% of the time). She's already figured out the days of the week (she knows that on the day my boyfriend only takes the ute out late in the day, I come around to his place) and she knows I'm one of the few people that let her lick me (she loves to lick people's skin).

    Your dog probably equated the pipe with the social behaviour that he craves. Since he already knows he's at the lowest end of the pack (as most dog owners do), he just feels left out at not being able to do something the rest of the pack does. I don't think dogs feel resentment, but dogs do feel left out. And, especially seeing the alpha female (your mom) having a good time with the other subsidaries, and since she's his best friend (as you put it), he definitely wants in. He figures that if he has a good time with you when you smoke, you will introduce him to the activity the next time the whole pack gets together, and thus he'll be part of the pack once again.

    (Wolf-man, much :p)
     
  6. Grossenschwamm

    Grossenschwamm Well-Known Member

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    For the good of the pack, my dog must smoke. I understand.
    I have read and observed that certain dogs possess the intelligence of a six year old child.
    Have you ever wondered how dogs know where to be when you've thrown their favorite ball/frisbee/stick? It's been shown that certain dogs have an innate understanding of calculus, and can estimate the future locations of objects by triangulating the height of the thrown object with their own position, and factoring in the speed.
    But, I straight-up told my dog he had better not start talking if he smokes. I don't know if I'm ready for that.
     
  7. Dark Elf

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    Well, in all honesty, that triangulating thing is innate in most carnivores. Falcons may not possess the intelligence of dogs, but they sure know where to strike, just like frogs are great at hitting bugs with their tongues etc.
     
  8. papa_dog_1999

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    I've always heard it was eight, but yes, dog can be quite smart. Except for Cocker Spaniels. They're just fucking stupid. At least the ones I've met. And mini poodles aren’t stupid, just psychotic. Something to do with shrinking the breed fucking with their mind. Like the skull shrunk, but the brain is trying to stay the same size. :eek:uch:
     
  9. Jazintha Piper

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    Never, ever get a labrador, unless you are willing to spend a heck of a lot of time with it, and keep your food in a safe place. Labradors do anything for food. They even knock over children standing in their way for food.

    Dogs are smart in their own way - they just can't articulate to us in the same language.
     
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    Alcohol is also funny when given to dogs. They vomit, stumble and with excessive like the one I saw get drunk died which was an interesting party. The drunks just thought it was hilarious to see the dog drink. I'm not entirely sure if it was the alcohol or another problem but still there were a lot of red faces when the owners little kid came out the next day looking for Rover.
     
  11. Jazintha Piper

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    Alcohol did it.

    Just imagine, twelve standard drinks in one hour is enough to kill a man. Imagine six on an animal, who might not have had any before, and is at most two thirds the size of the average human being.
     
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  13. Grossenschwamm

    Grossenschwamm Well-Known Member

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    (Found out I don't work today).
    Ugly dog dies by the drink? Unfortunate. Embarrassing. Kinda funny.
    I remember watching animal planet and seeing that Emergency Vet show. A chihuahua had gotten its paws on some tequila (funny as hell, and comically stereotypical). It had consumed the scale equivalent of 1.4 quarts of tequila, and was stumbling around in the exam room. The dog survived, but mainly because it threw up at home and got its stomach pumped at the vet's.
    Dogs have been living with humans for tens of thousands of years, so I guess that explains the ease of companionship and the interest in the same types of food and drink. The other great apes are pretty easy to convince, too...It makes me wonder if in Borneo and Africa where it's more likely to have a chimp or orangutan as a live-in companion, there are little smoking circles going on with both human and ape participants.
     
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