guess what? I have been cheated by the game

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  1. farylin

    farylin New Member

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    Allright now, first I'm new to the forum so hi.

    But I'm pretty pissed by now, because the game is just playing dirty. I'll explain.

    I play arcanum patched, no mods on singleplayer. I've looked on sites and forums for gameplay/strategytips and decided to play (yes very common) melee weapons with tech later on.

    All well, so i went to create my character. And here it comes, I picked a trait for my little dwarf (I believe it's 'ran away with the circus') that got strength+6 int -2 willpower -3 and perception -1. I figured thats nice because I'm not gonna use willpower and perception, bonus points for me!

    But i was a little worried about the intelligence loss, because then I wouldn't be able to reach my int. max of 20.
    So i made myself a little calculation; a dwarfs strength is 9 so its max is going to be 21 right?
    If my trait affects my max/minimum i could get with my strength to 27 (+6 to strength).
    At the start my strength is a whopping 9+6 =15
    I have 5 points at the start so thats 20.
    I figured if i can gain two levels and I can increase my strength to 22, my maximum is raised and so is my intelligence lowered (to max 18) and then I won't do that.

    But happily for me it turned out that my strength couldn't get above 21.
    So I went on fullfilling quests and now I'm level 25 and I wanted to increase my intelligence to 20 and guess what?
    I can get only to 18!!!
    So i'm getting the bad side of the trait, but not the good side!
    This is absolutely ridiculeus. Now I won't be able to use the last (and best) technical schematics!

    phew, this story took me awhile and perhaps I went on talking, but I've let off some steam.

    Does any1 have an answer to this problem? Perhaps something I can use?
    Thank you already.

    Farylin
     
  2. xento

    xento New Member

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    Welcome to the forums!!!

    Um... the reason you can't go above 18 is because it takes a perminant negative for the intellegence and you can't make it higher....
    But, maybe you could try a brain booster or some other techonology intelligence-enancer....
    I'm not sure, maybe you could get Arcanum Edit from on of the site download areas and manually make it at least 19.
     
  3. farylin

    farylin New Member

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    Thank you for the quick response.

    Well, I can understand it if my -2 to intelligence is a permanent negative, but I think that in that case my +6 to strength should also be a permanent positive. Thats my problem.
    And those drugs, do they really work?

    Thanks already
    Farylin
     
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    Luchaire New Member

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    Bonuses from backgrounds and such do not affect your max. That's just the way it is. Sorry :(

    Yes, the drugs work.... temporarily...
     
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    M@de in China New Member

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    But does that allow you to get the schematics and keep them once the int bonus wears off is the question on all our minds.
     
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    Yes. But you would then have to increase your INT again by drugs every time you wanted to USE those schematics too. No big deal, but something to keep in mind.
     
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    Just as in real life, you can use drugs to help you get your Phd.
     
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    The drugs don't work, they just make you worse, but I...
     
  9. Evil Assassin

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    THe vivifier increases all your stats by +1 PERMANENTLY so drink one of those to get strength 19
     
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    All the ingredients & the schematic are hidden in Vendigroth. You only need a few tech manuals to make it.
     
  14. The_Malus_Monkey

    The_Malus_Monkey New Member

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    Okay, good. When my mage-uber melee- half ogre fighter gets there he will use it!
     
  15. xento

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    Oh the wonders of Vendigroth! :D

    I actually didn't know it would raise it PERMINANTLY! That will help alot!

    Err, what does the Vendigrothian Elixer do? What does it raise?

    Also, what is the difference between a revivider and a reanimator? I think the reanimator did the dark necromatic create undead once, but I thought that is what the necromiser does...
     
  16. The_Malus_Monkey

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    nope those 2 are the same, just different ingredients.... like lemon and potatoe charges and the normal way to make them. They do the same thing
     
  17. xento

    xento New Member

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    Oh, then why do they have different names? :-?

    Also, why did they make them way so much? It is just so inconvenieant!
     
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    The vendigroth elixir boosta your mental stats for a short period of time.
     
  19. Shadygrove

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    CH & persuasion too.
     
  20. Ray Stryke

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    So... although it is possible to raise your stats over 20...but...is it possible to raise ALL of your stats over 20?
    oh, and is there a live chat area? or is this as good as it gets?
     
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