The Joys of Easter Eggs

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  1. Ioo

    Ioo New Member

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    I never said that man... you must have been drinking...

    Anyway...8 pages is not much at all...I'll bring up a bigger thread.
     
  2. Jinxed

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    that's lame. you wrote something like a newbie, something written weeks ago, and now your editing? lame..
     
  3. friend_al_23

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    ...and then I saw [edit].
     
  4. Havokk

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    OK, to get this drifting thread back on some sort of track:

    Tollo Underhill is the pseudonym Frodo Baggins used as he left Hobbiton.

    IIRC Hieronymous Maxim is a famous inventor (the Maxim gun).

    A chakram is weapon. You've probably all seen it used - Xena the Warrior Princess uses one.

    IIRC Doc Roberts is a character from a western pulp series.

    I'm amazed no-one has mentioned the biggest easter egg - the Arcanum X-Files quest.

    I have a vague idea that the Bessie Toone mine was a mine in real life. Anyone know for sure?

    Is Madame Toussade a reference to the house of wax? I can't see any connection.

    The Dog has to be a reference to Dogmeat from Fallout.


    Cheers
    Craig

    P.S. Just finished the game a few minutes ago. Wiigii!
     
  5. Etalis Craftlord

    Etalis Craftlord New Member

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    by this same note, the sword is an easter egg cuz I saw it used in a Conan movie once.

    The Arcanum X-Files quest is just way to obvious... how did we all miss that? Don't answer that.
     
  6. Sheriff Fatman

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    The waxworks is Madame Tussaud's. The differently spelt one in Tarant, could be a reference, but I reckon it's just one of those times when a writer doesn't try too hard to come up with and original name.

    Well done on finshing the game :smile:
     
  7. YeaYea2001

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    There are creatures in Hardin's Pass called Yeti
     
  8. Jinxed

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    1. That's dumb. It's like saying hey! The sword is a weapon! Conan uses it! Therefor it's a Conan The Barbarian Easter Egg!

    2. Wrong again my friend. We described that quest as X-Files in our walkthrough a long time ago. Just check the site. Since alot of people that were interested in Eater Eggs read that, it was useless to post it up.

    3. No shit Sherlock!

    But I give you the rest. Good job.

    edit: I give credit to Etalis for making up the Conan comparison first. However, I was sure I made it up first. It's weird we came up with the same exact example

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  9. Jarinor

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    Actually the name he uses is just Mr Underhill if I'm not too badly mistaken. Troika just added in the Tollo part.

    As for the chakram part, I'm going to echo everyone else - of course it's a weapon, did you expect them to come up with a new name for a circular round throwing device? What would suggest is a good new name for a crescent steel blade attached to a handle? An axe? No, wait, that ones been used already...
     
  10. carlstar

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    did anyone mention that one of the half elves look like tommy lee jones. if not then.

    one of the half elves look like tommm lee jones.
     
  11. BortiiS_VoN_BortiiS

    BortiiS_VoN_BortiiS New Member

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    OH MY FRICKEN GOODNESS.

    You guys must be smoking crack, like you're all some kind of "conspiracy theorists" with Arcanum being all like,"SO-and-SO's name is similar to SO-and-SO's name! It's an easter egg!"

    SHEESH, not everything is part of some cryptic, intentional "easter-egg" plot.

    PLUS, just cuz some game uses some quote from some movie or something, IT'S NOT an easter egg, that's just a mere reference-tribute. An easter egg is commonly a "profound" secret or hidden goodie in the game that is just completely off-beat and extremely difficult to find.

    An example, would be if you stumbled across some hidden village in the far off corner of Arcanum you'd never travel and that village was a town from one of the Fallout games.

    For example, in the original Duke Nukem, in one level, atop a building with a helicopter, if you used the noclip cheat and flew out onto the roof (the only way to access it from the glass booth), you'd find some floating text hidden off the edge of the building in some dark corner saying,"You're not suppose to be here!"
    Another easter egg, say, in DOOM would be something like the Pac-Man level (or was the Wolf3D?) OR, in the game Clive Barker's UNDYING, there is a bunch of easter eggs, such as in one level, you go to this one specific protruding blank and jump on it up and down like 3 times. Then, a giant, super-sized sheep/goat thing comes trodding out from behind this barn, like some kind of Stay-Puff Marshmellow thing.

    Another easter egg example is one in the game "The Wheel of Time", after you beat the game (it won't work if u role the credits from the main menu), watch all the credits role until the end, the intro-narrator's voice will come on and say,"The wheel of time...DANCE PARTY!", suddenly the screen lights up and you're standing at some balcony looking down and seeing a bunch of characters in the game in some kind of club-dance floor getting jiggy with it with some weird (almost porno-sounding) techno music playing. Pretty funny!
    An easter egg in the old Jane's Fighters Anthology game is one that if you hit a bunch of keys a certain way or something, the game will let you fly Mothra (from old monster movies).

    An easter egg in Arcanum would be like, if you found a Lightsaber hidden in the game or maybe found some kind of hidden modern office building with Troika on it and the game developers as characters in it or something.
    OR, if you found a hidden portal that was Orcish with references to Warcraft II.

    An easter egg is NOT "THAT SWORD LOOKS LIKE THE SWORD FROM THIS OTHER GAME! IT MUST BE AN EASTER EGG!"
    or "THAT GUY GAR IS THE NAME OF THIS BIKER GUY IN THIS MOVIE I SAW! I THINK IT'S AN EASTER EGG!"
    or "THAT MOUNTAIN GIANT MUST BE A REFERENCE TO A GIANT MOUNTAIN GIANT IN ANCIENT MYTHOLOGY! I SAY IT'S OBVIOUSLY AN EASTER EGG!"

    I mean, I'm just saying, please try to use a bit more common sense (yeah, and the Isle of Thanatos is not some "easter egg"-reference to Jurassic Park for crying out loud! SHEESH!).
    An easter egg IS A HIDDEN SECRET, not some play on words and names, or stolen movie quotes.

    The G.Bates thing (they do call him Mr. Bates, Mr. comes from Master, but I don't consider that any fricken easter egg) relating to Bill Gates is something, but nothing that can be called an easter egg.
    The Fallout references are NOTHING, alot of games do that. BGII had silly stuff like that all the time in it with references to some movie, other game, or whatever.

    If I find a REAL easter egg in the game, I'll let you know.
    (The Monty Python and the Holy Grail killer rabbit thing I thought was hilarious, but it's not an easter-egg, it's more of just a subtle comedic tribute.)
     
  12. Sheriff Fatman

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    er ... um ... you might wanna go easy on the white stuff yourself, Bortis.

    People talking about references in an Easter Egg thread isn't as serious a problem as you appear to believe. The number of lives it claims each year is quite low.
     
  13. Jinxed

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    Dear Mr.Bortiis

    I'm not sure where you are getting all your info from. You see, easter eggs will be what we make them to be. If we call Bates an easter egg, he will be. And so on. I do not think that a hidden message saying "you are not supposed to be here" a an easter egg. To what does it refer? If we are already talking about Duke Nukem, finding Indiana Jones's dead body was and easter egg. Or stumbling upon the monolith from Space Oddysey. You my friend are taking to this whole thing too seriously. Make love not war.:wink:
     
  14. anachronox2

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    weeeeell it COULD be a really wierd reference to the Star Trek the next Generation episode yesterday's enterprise, where guinan keeps on saying thingsa like 'your not supposed to be here'. or i could just be trying to irritate jinxed... who knows?
     
  15. BortiiS_VoN_BortiiS

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    HAHAHAH! My point proven.

    You're just upset that you now realize how ridiculous you've been sounding all these 8 pages.
    DOH!

    Yeah, and making an Easter Egg into whatever you say it is, is a real hoot. They have a specific description for people who do stuff like that, they're "delusional".

    Gee, I think I'll make Chocolate into Vanilla. I can do that cuz I SAY IT'S SO!
    So from now on, everything Chocolate is actually Vanilla. Oh, they also call people who say such things "insane."
    I wonder why?

    REAL EASTER EGGS in Arcanum:
    -The cemetary listed in the Terra-Arcanum.com Location, this place is not identified on the main map, it is north of Tarant where the two rivers split (located north of the split). The names on the tombstone and funny description refers to forum-users who posted to the developer's forum in the past (regarding the game, or spammers, etc.).
    There must have been fifty tombstones, very funny stuff too.

    --I'M NOT SURE I'd call this an easter egg because the location is labled on the main map, it's a Secret Village (also found in the Location index on the Terra-Arcanum site) described as: "You hear sounds of celebration"--OR SOMETHING like that.

    The village is actually a SPOOF of the old SMURF village from the old SMURF cartoon (in the late 1980s).

    Instead of blue SMURFS, there are blueish Kites (who attacked me). In the center of the village (small mushroom houses, like in the show) is a dead human male wizard and a dead furry animal looks like a dog, but, described as something weird, like "Grizzy Fighter" or "Fuzzy Fighter" or something.

    The wizard is obviously suppose to be the wizard Gargamel and the animal is his evil pet cat Oswald (pretty sure he was called Oswald). In the show, the wizard would always attack the Smurf village wanting to capture them and eat them (I dunno, I guess they tasted good), however, like the W.E. Coyote, he and his cat always failed. Obviously, the village was celebrating that they finally killed him.

    --THIS IS NOT an Easter Egg either but rather another one of those "coincedence" things. The game's opening shows you on the zepplin, and you get attacked by two mercenary orcs in stolen fighter craft who shoot it down.

    This reminded me alot of the movie "The Fifth Element" when the two fighters flown by the Mangolore mercs flying two fighters shot down the Managewan (or whatever the heck they were called) ship carring the 5th Element that would save them from some dark evil thing from another dimension whose goal was...TO DESTROY ALL LIFE, GEE, just like Kerghan's goal in the game.

    And the priest, Victor Cornelius reminds me of Virgil in some parts, ONLY in that he knows what is suppose to be done, the whole destiny/prophecy thing, but at the same time, isn't quite sure of it.

    Coincedence?

    --IN a related reverse-coincedence, I was watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer, the newest season, where Buffy is brought back from the dead.
    According the Buffy, in the TV show, in one episode, she talked about her experience and said she wasn't sure if she was in Heaven or not (she believed she was), but she said she was in some kind of vast greyish place of total peace and calm. You'd have to see the episode yourself, I don't remember word for word but her description, I do remember, was VERY much like what Kerghan in Arcanum was describing that sort of "final place for the dead".
    ALSO, a theme in the storyline for the show has Buffy seeing life as a place of just pain and suffering (she actually referred to life as being "Hell" to her) and that grey place she was immersed in as being what she yearned for, was "torn away" from, cuz there was no pain or anything, just the peace and warmth, etc. (or more briefly put, she actually had a perspective exactly like that of Kerhgan, except, she didn't want to destroy all life).

    I'll BET YOU five bucks the show's creator/writer was probably playing ARCANUM when he was writing the show's new season.
    The similarities and just the way certain things were said and described, seemed like alot more than just a coincendence.

    And it's actually kinda disappointing, it's not an original story idea now or anything cuz I've played Arcanum and seen all of this, philosophical stuff, etc., already; seemed like a real rip-off of Arcanum's story ideas.
    DOH!
     
  16. Jinxed

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    DUDE! As sheriff fatman said, the death rate is really low. I like this forum as it is and intend to keep it this way. The atmosphere is kind, no one looking over your shoulder saying: "hey you idiot! That's not right you imbacile!" And so on. If you want to be tight assed, go to the vault13 network. Although you would probably disagree with the easter egg problem with them too. I don't know where you're coming from, but you are intended on making your point regardless. I will not stop you, as I do not stop anyone esle who would make such posts. Keep in mind, most of us treated this thread as a complete list of every single thing that could be associated with something else. And it was fun too. One more thing, don't get so angry, it won't get you far here.
     
  17. Etalis Craftlord

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    DUDE BORTISS SIMMER DOWN NOW!

    *I* certainly don't need someone else telling me what I can or can't think of as an easter egg. Get a life. Geez... this is supposed to be a FUN thread not a BORKISS YELLING AT OTHER PEOPLE FOR THINKING SOMETHING HE DOESN'T AGREE WITH POST. Jeez, man, if you're going to try and force your opinions on everyone else then why don't you go back to the good old days of the Spanish Inquisition or McCarthy?
    By the way, if you're going to complain about other people's contributions, then I'm going to complain about yours. EVERY ONE OF THE EASTER EGGS YOU MENTIONED HAS BEEN SAID ALREADY. If you're going to whine about other people's people posts, at least make yours ORIGINAL for cryin out loud.

    Now that Borkiss has been suitably beaten into submission with the power of a teenager and a keyboard, onto more relevant things!
    WHOOOSH!
    Jinxed - gosh, that makes me feel all fuzzy inside. Does everyone *really* like my thread? *fishes for compliments* :wink:

    Anyhoo, I found another easter egg according to Borkiss. Sometimes when I load my game it automatically shuts down. This is a reference to Final Fantasy VII, which didn't even load on my computer (because I was using a Playstation game in my computer :wink: ). Well that's enough yelling at other people for now, I'll leave it to anox now... he's good at yelling at people who piss him off.
    WHOOSH! *flies off again*
     
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    Could not agree with you more on this issue Etalis (for once :wink:).

    No, it's a ridiculous thread *slaps Etalis in the back of the head*.

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  20. Etalis Craftlord

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    Wow Jarinor, you don't like head :wink:? I love mocking other people's bad spelling skills. Speaking of which, what the hell did you just say, Rat? I *hope* it wasn't another inane and useless comment, because if it is I'm going to be forced to smack you.
     
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