Virgil VS Zen-Virgil

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  1. Oracle

    Oracle Member

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    I got the option now let him leave to Celadon or keep him with me.
    what would you choose if virgil is about lv 25. and tell me why.


    on a side note I'm patched (1.7.0.4) but still zen-virgil will loss all items and his lv changes to 25. any idea why ?
     
  2. Zebulin

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    you keep him with you by going evil so you get surly virgil instead? i can't remember how that worked.
     
  3. Vyenna

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    Zen-Virgil sucks, evil Virgil rule. Bigtime.
     
  4. Zebulin

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    in his own way surly virgils constant snide sarcasm is almost as grating as zen virgil is.

    Anyway what skills and training does surly virgil get in place of the ones zen virgil develops? I seem to remember zen virgil getting ressurect at some point but that might been pre-patch.
     
  5. Oracle

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    Zen virgil drops his lockpick and dodge skills. He gains all levels of white necro spells and 2 black necro spells.
     
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    Hello.
    I was just wondering, this Zen-Virgil.
    Is that the like, After Death Virgil?
     
  7. Grossenschwamm

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    That's exactly what Zen (or Surly) Virgil is. Depending on your alignment, Virgil will either be good (zen) or bad (surly).
    Also if you somehow manage to keep him from ever dying in the first place, he'll also change depending on your "path".
    There's no difference between the two possible methods, except one will save you a scroll of resurrect or something like that.
     
  8. Zebulin

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    to keep him from dying just switch to turn based combat mode the instant you reach the basement, and use haste to get you to him before he's killed.

    I'm pretty sure it didn't matter how long it took me to actually get to the sobbing onion.
     
  9. Xz

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    The script containing the event isn't triggered until you enter the basement of the Sobbing Onion, so it doesn't matter how long it takes you to get to Caladon.
     
  10. Virgil_Brummond

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    You guys need to leave me alone. Virgil/s good for storyline and he is more useful than most other followers. The lockpicking skill actually came in handy for me a few times. And Zen Virgil gets ressurect no matter what so its good if your not lv like 40 when regular Virgil gets it.

    Plus his voice actor was Spider-man in the Ps1 game. I learned this completely by accident. ^_^ I checked it on wiki and its true.

    Voice Actor: Rino Romano
     
  11. Dark Elf

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    Rino Romano also did some voice-acting for Sailor Moon, so shut up about the coolness factor already!
     
  12. Grossenschwamm

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    My Virgil is always "broken." He never learns past the first level of white necromancy or any other discipline. And when he dies, since I'm patched, he never gets any new spells.

    Whatever it takes to pay the bills...I wouldn't be surprised if he did voice-over work in a hentai.
     
  13. Virgil_Brummond

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    -.-

    Hes not broken in mine. Plus my name is Virgil in rl soo... there.
     
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    Who uses virgil anyway?

    If im magic oriented I usually just level him until he learns major heal, and then he becomes my mule.

    I make him wait on the entrance of the dungeon and just run up to him if I need heal. (Wich, of course, never happens because sir garrick stout never gets hurt :) )

    He´s really not a bad fella, but the AI.... :???:
     
  16. Grossenschwamm

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    Is stellar. Not many things in the game are quite as funny as Virgil trying to heal a tech-heavy character until he passes out.
     
  17. SirGarrickStout

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    He´s a dedicated one!!!!!!!

    He would never give up!!!! He should be a warrior!!!!!!!! I bet he would pass the knife-edge punching test quite easily.
     
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    The laws say that we can only kill you if you gravedig or double post. :)
     
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