Can anyone actually access the planet vampire site anymore (as in, I think it's gone tits up)? If not, would anyone want to reach out to Wesp to see if he would want to host his patches here? I thought the point was we a Trokia forum, who better to who that kind of stuff and take the mantle (I think he's best contacted through the Steam forums if anyone was keen). This was all in the frame of me saying we should have a generic "games" sub forum to scope out the non-Trokia games we're so keen on (as most forums have when they're dedicated to a certain game/series), and me following with a PS saying we should maybe get in touch with Wesp (if anyone has similar problems as me in accessing the site) to support Trokia if the main vampire site had gone down. However me trying their website shutdown my browser, and now I can't be bothered with all my well reasoned arguments as to why a games sub forum is a good idea.