Was thinking about ways to get a user interface for a C++ game I'm going to be programming when I remembered the Irrlicht open source graphics engine. I remember from before that it included tutorial code (which it still does) and was very easy to get into. And free! How this is all relevant to Arcanum 2, apart from a easy to get into graphics engine to avoid the hideous standard windows API tutes is that it also does Isometric rendering http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/tutorials/ I going over the intro tutorials now and will probably think of Arcanum 2 after I've done a fair bit of work (or at least a bit of work) on my game, but I just thought I'd through that out there. Hopefully will make it easier for people doing their own projects.