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Kirov
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:43 pm    Post subject: Arcanum 2 Reply with quote

It's hard for me to think of a better storyline than the original arcanum. I think It would be neat if the sequel continues right after you beat kerrigan and includes Vendigroth.

Vendigroth would be awsome.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe it's just me, but I think that there weren't be too much to do right after Arcanum ends. Problems from all over Arcanum were already solved and we'd need time for new ones to appear to make the thing interesting. If we'd want Vendigroth, a much greater time would be the Age of Legends, when Vendigroth was in its full glory, the time of the Elven Council, when the world was crawling with demons, evil warlocks, dragons... Ah, those were the days.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or if Bates gets too old and dies, leaving no heirs surely there could be a story about renegade mages taking that opportunity to stop anyone from following on.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But I brutally murdered him.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I still stand by my idea of setting a sequel about 100 years later with technology in charge, with renegade mages trying to tip the balance using any means necessary.

Or you know, in the Age of Legends with the powers reversed. Could be interesting to see another side of Vendigroth, ifyouknowwhatImean.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How 'bout renegade mages in an expanded vendigroth in the age of legends? Surely a hell of a lot easier to implement plot-wise
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But dosent Vendigroth mend the seperation of Technology and magic?


Besides I defeated the most evil being in existance, and I don't even get bask in my own glory?

Ha ha ha,

Anyway, I dont know, I really wouldnt know where to start when making a sequel to arcanum.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Age of Legends was before the events of Arcanum, before the banishing of Arronax and so on.

Technically, I suppose that's a prequel but having a bunch of mages running around technological vendigroth could be interesting. Or so I thought
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it certainly would be interesting, I'm mostly thinking in terms of stuff I can write, y'know?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kirov wrote:
Besides I defeated the most evil being in existance

...and here, boys and girls, we've got Karghan the Teeeeerrible :multiple gasps:, who wanted to make the existence of every single soul a better one, which obviously makes him the most evil being ever. Yup. And about the next wax figure, the one with the small disfigured willy...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about arcanum mmo? maybe have bethsedia make it cause they did good with oblivion and fallout 3, my fav games eva!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zanza, is that you?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 8:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How about arcanum mmo? maybe have bethsedia make it cause they did good with oblivion and fallout 3, my fav games eva!


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 9:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not new, it's Zanza. Who now has access to his former account again.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He still looks banished to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks can be deceptive.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he's going to post while having the avatar & rank of a banished one, that's going to be funny as hell.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed an avatar I can finally be proud of. Now I was thinking, was technology really that prominent in the Age of Legends? I know Vendigroth was booming but they inhabited one city did they not? Magic being such an easy option in Arcanum even though it is meant to be a dying art in a world dominated by technology, would gameplay not suffer if the majority of characters and zones were filled with magic? I have a fear that it would just become just another generic RPG.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You guys are all stoopid. Arcanum 2 should take place on an orbital platform.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We've gone through this a gazillion times before, and we've always reached the conclusion that the Age of Legends would be the most feasible setting for a sequel. Place it after the original Arcanum and you will have to assume that the Living One beat the crap out of Kerghan, because hey, the world is still here, ain't it? The Age of Legends doesn't pose any such problems regarding the game's canon, unless of course you decide to kill Arronax before he annihilates the Elven Council or whatnot. On the other hand, only because the game is set in the Age of Legends, you do not have to be directly involved in the affairs of those pesky elves and necromancers, do you?

It would also be a perfect opportunity to introduce new spells and technological marvels, as these things were around at that time.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If he's going to post while having the avatar & rank of a banished one, that's going to be funny as hell.


It sure looks a bit weird having him that avatar, and posts at the same time.

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We've gone through this a gazillion times before, and we've always reached the conclusion that the Age of Legends would be the most feasible setting for a sequel.


Now that we all came to this conclusion, we really should do some thinking about what for kind of people, creatures, new spells and weapons, technological marvels there would be at that time now.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

:laughs like silly:
I'm sorry, I just saw Zanza posting with that avatar of his. It's incredible, I didn't know we have the means to receive posts which were submitted in the Void. This place is amazing.

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Now I was thinking, was technology really that prominent in the Age of Legends? I know Vendigroth was booming but they inhabited one city did they not?

The highly advanced technology may have been located in just one city, but don't forget that the said city was as big as the present Vendigroth Wastes. It was like a whole country full of advanced tech.

Also, the technology might not have been disseminated all over Arcanum, but the dwarves were most probably always playing with technology more or less. The Age of Legends might be the time when the Iron Clan was in the top if its possibilities, too.

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The Age of Legends doesn't pose any such problems regarding the game's canon, unless of course you decide to kill Arronax before he annihilates the Elven Council or whatnot.

Things like that would be the most fun of all. Destroying the Elven Council in the name of Vendigroth, banishing Nasrudin to the Void with Kerghan's help (being his apprentice, after all), killing Loghaire Thunderstone as a soldier of Lorek's army, promoting to general, then second in command and eventually killing him in his sleep and becoming the new king of the dwarves, capturing the inhabitants of all the halfling villages out there and feeding your new dwarven army with them, making Gorgoth starve to death as a side effect... Oh, the possibilities! Damn. For a second there I even wanted to have that kind of Arcanum 2.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about a WW1 setting? I think that could work. You still have the big, bulky machines like you do in the 19th century and the time is one with a lot of things going on, thus new problems to solve. It wouldn't be totally dominated by technology as it would be 100 years later, and not totally ruled by magick like The Age of Legends.

You could even have the Arcanum equivalent of The Great War take place IN Arcanum for more problems. Maybe a couple of rival commanders would offer missions like in the Boil.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This kind of age has some possibilities, because:

* Perhaps Blackroot wants have independence, and don’t want to be under the thumb of Tarant anymore. Now Tarant don’t takes this anymore, and offers an ultimatum to Blackroot. Feeling protected by a powerful allied country, (I cannot remember the name.) Blackroot says “no.” Suddenly the king of Tarant (Or a king of an ally.) was murdered by a separatist. Now Tarant and his allies declare war to Blackroot and their allies.
Plot ideas: The PC has to find out who ordered the seperatist to commit the political murder. He/she can ally with one of the country, and fight their enemy country, by sabotage, killing commanders, free hostages, and destroy enemies troops.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 01, 2009 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

General Mandible wrote:
How about a WW1 setting? I think that could work. You still have the big, bulky machines like you do in the 19th century and the time is one with a lot of things going on, thus new problems to solve. It wouldn't be totally dominated by technology as it would be 100 years later, and not totally ruled by magick like The Age of Legends.

You could even have the Arcanum equivalent of The Great War take place IN Arcanum for more problems. Maybe a couple of rival commanders would offer missions like in the Boil.


This idea is not half bad. But the plot should take place just before the war, with obligatory conscription going on both in Tarant and Caladon. Perhaps there are still a few people who still thinks diplomacy is a good thing, and want the player to aid them in their struggle for peace. Others want war for their own reasons.

The WW1 setting should just be a setting though; the plot needn't revolve around the war. It should be an important factor in quests and travel (and in social life, of course), but not the central part of the game.
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