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Minuos
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Ah, Magnus. Considering that Latin forms the basis of a good deal of European language, it's at least something to consider (for whether it was intended or not). Either way, I still found it a touch humorous and I envy your Great-Grandfather for it being his name, Grakelin.
But as far as intellectuality goes, genuine or feigned, I've never been one for formal attributes. I just like people who aren't utterly stupid. I'm probably a bit above average where mental prowess is concerned but it's quite wasted by the fact that I only care about literature and videogames. Such is life.
Also, I'm guilty of many a numb post - the fruit of strong liquor. Far from any form of intellect, I'm sure.
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| Gjerdev Ankarus wrote: | | When I realized the Alliance of Self-Indulgent Pseudo-Intellectuals wasn't accepting new members, I gtfo'd. |
As far as I recall, there wasn't any bandwagon aimed at you, just Fish and Rosie having a little fun with the new guy and the new guy proving to not have a thick enough skin to wait till they get bored and make the initiation process complete. Me, I even threatened to eat a cat if you won't come back, and yet you didn't. The cat was quite tasty though, so no hard feelings.
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Grakelin
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| Minuos wrote: | I'm probably a bit above average where mental prowess is concerned but it's quite wasted by the fact that I only care about literature
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You should probably be aware that certain people get paid six figures to talk about literature, because it is considered to be a highly important part of academia.
I don't think it's a waste. I've got a 4-10 year game plan for studying theatre, after all. And people are going to pay my university big money to make sure people like me are able to do that. Seriously. Ditch your girlfriend to save some money and go get a Ph. D. |
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Minuos
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Hence why I'm concentrating on literature in college. Can't say I'm fond of all the time which will need to be invested, but it's a given.
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I study literature myself at uni, decided once I get my degree I'm joining the police though, take it how you will.
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Ah, literary academia. *gags* I'd think better of them if one of them hadn't looked at my own work, and had the GALL to tell me what message I was trying to send, and to talk down to me when I told him he was way off base. (He got it completely wrong, incidentally. He thouht I was aiming for a metaphor about science gone mad; I was trying to say don't neglect your pets because it'll come back to bite you in the ass.)
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I almost broke a personal rule and *roleplayed* a laugh there, Xiao. I'm the reserved, passive sort, but we have two of your hated type to put up with. One of whom pretends I don't exist because of a snide remark I once made about her assumed love for cream-cakes. So as a general rule, no one touches my stuff. Suppose I'm like a ghoul without the shuffling. It'd be a cold day in hell before they got their mitts on my more prized pieces.
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I'll need absolute, undeniable proof of the existance of Hell before I ever let academians near my work again. Bloody lunatics...
Protect your work from them, my friend, they're crazy.
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Gjerdev Ankarus
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| Muro wrote: | | As far as I recall, there wasn't any bandwagon aimed at you, just Fish and Rosie having a little fun with the new guy and the new guy proving to not have a thick enough skin to wait till they get bored and make the initiation process complete. |
That's a fair jab, but I didn't mean to imply that there was any by and large bandwagoning against me, more simultaneously stating two reasons I left.
| Muro wrote: | | I even threatened to eat a cat if you won't come back, and yet you didn't. The cat was quite tasty though, so no hard feelings. |
Touching, that. And i c wut u did thar.
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I think you meant to say 'til. I just wanted to be petty once more for old times' sake. |
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Grakelin
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| Xiao_Caity wrote: | | (He got it completely wrong, incidentally. He thouht I was aiming for a metaphor about science gone mad; I was trying to say don't neglect your pets because it'll come back to bite you in the ass.) |
I don't mean to sound negative, but if it were me, I would let the guy think it was about the fallacies of science before telling him it was a PETA ad. Just saying.
You shouldn't be getting worked up just because somebody interprets your piece a different way. That's the point. Bertolt Brecht wrote in such a way that different people who watch or read his plays would disagree as to the argument contained within. Robert Wilson refuses to explain anything he does, and it is entirely up to the audience of his works to interpret what they will.
Similarly, allowing yourself to get too narrowly focused on what you want your work to be is not beneficial. Let these interpretations flow, and if you like them, weave them into your writing. People don't interpret things by accident: you had to have actually done something to make them think of this. In February, two of us performed a work of physical theatre (and I know that you're not referring to acting, but this same principle applies to writing. I've done both) in which we represented crops growing in a field, entwining together, and finally being harvested before growing anew. One interpretation we received of an erotic message, another involved the desperation of relationships. Neither of these was what we actually had in mind, but they were interesting avenues to explore nonetheless.
At any rate, it's your responsibility as the writer to communicate your message. Making the choice to disguise it is up to you, but if somebody else interprets it a different way, it is simply what they experienced from your work. Which is to say, it's your own fault. |
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Minuos
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Depends on the reader. When writing, I use undertones then short sentences or speech to cap them off. It's interesting to hear what people think, but I hate to hear what people think they know (connoisseurs with no creative experience are short of a good kicking). Which is more what I assumed Xiao to be speaking of. But yes, you need to have different interpretations. It can help you develop your writing, only much of the time it doesn't, but I can sympathise with the fact that it can be really bloody annoying.
Anyway, interpretations ruined Burgess, so I reserve the right to call someone an idiot when they think I'm expressing an opinion on class differentiation in a passage which serves only as filler between two key points. So should Xiao.
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I would argue that pointless filler in a writing is detrimental to the piece as a whole. If somebody gets something out of it, hold onto it with all your might.
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I didn't mention pointless filler. What I did mention is more the breath between points made, so to speak. I don't need to hold onto people getting something out of it if more understand the points which are actually relevant to the rest of the text. Besides, I have some work which is largely a farce and of the four people who managed to get a look, two treated it seriously. So take interpretations with a pinch of salt.
That's what happens academically, after all. The more widespread views are the ones which matter most.
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| GA wrote: |
I think you meant to say 'til. |
According to this and this, there was actually no mistake in my sentence.
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